Posted on the March 19th, 2011 under Work by Papa Bear
On Friday I received a question. Should a project be accepted or not? A simple question and should be peanuts for some people. Here are the information related to the project.
1. Investment: RM 1,000,000
2. Revenues: Year 1 – RM 250,000, Year 2 – RM 420,000 and Year 3 – RM 420,000.
3. Total Revenue is RM 1,090,000. Net Revenue is RM 90,000.
4. Discount rate = 10%
What do you think? Simple, right?
The thing is I did not study Accounting and I hardly paid attention during my Engineering Economics 101 in school. This should have been a breeze if otherwise..
It took me about an hour to figure this out. I am rusty all over when it comes to something such as this. Firstly, how do you determine whether this project is attractive or not? I hope you would not say based on the Net Revenue because that will be wrong. From school, the answer would be to find out the Net Present Value (NPV) of the project over the 3 years cycle. So, the next thing to do is look for the formula!
Present Value (PV) = FV / (1 + i)t where FV – the Future Value, t – the time of the cash flow and i – the annual interest rate
Based on that we need to calculate the Future Value (FV). So, NPV would be the Sum of FV minus the Initial Investment. Since the information provided the discount rate and not interest rate, therefore,
Discount Factor = 1 / (1 + i)t. Discount factor refers to the rate used to discount future cash flows to the present value. So, we then have, FV = PV (1 / (1 + i)t). With all the above information in place, just use MS Excel and run the calculations:
Based on the calculation above, the sum of the Future Value is only RM 889,932.38. As such, the Net Present Value will be -RM 110,067.62, a negative figure. The negative NPV makes this project unattractive. We should not accept this project.
So, if you do not understand this, don’t worry. Just don’t do the kind of job that I do.. Peace!
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When I look at the formula etc I do get it but it’s not my thing! =) Instead… let me negotiate about prices, delivery terms, discounts etc with suppliers.. Behrad´s last post ..Firefox Plugin- MeasureIt
tapi susah bagi saya sebab nak bezakan jenis2 ikan. yg saya kenal ikan jerung, ikan buntal, ikan pari and ikan bawal… tapi even ikan bawal ada banyak jenis.. susah tuh…
Ok.My math is sooo not good after I left school.But I hope u can gain a lot of money in the future.Open table la bro..hihi airaniez´s last post ..Antara Kemalasan Dan Kerajinan
nak senang cam ni la… kalau tahun ni RON95 RM 1.90, beebrapa bulan lagi atau tahun depan, kena naik kan harga dia, kalau tak, 1.90 in teh future tu dah tak da makna dah… bertambah konpius?
sengkangbabies
now, you are teaching Project Management?
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Papa Bear
not teach but do..
KNizam
these are my forte hehe

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Papa Bear
oh really? next time if I have related questions that I could not solve, I would be asking you..
meo
i love this….
basic 4 corp finance & personal finance
Papa Bear
yup, this is basic stuff..
Behrad
When I look at the formula etc I do get it but it’s not my thing! =) Instead… let me negotiate about prices, delivery terms, discounts etc with suppliers..

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Papa Bear
well, we have our strengths and weaknesses and when put together, we make it whole..
Jerung Gergasi
hahhhh..ada gak amik engineering economics ni ..tapi ..mana la nak apply semua rumus tu. so net value formula is not right or what?
Papa Bear
nothing is wrong with the formula. the question is about whether a project with the data given is attractive or not..
lankapo
I just don’t have any idea what are u talking about hehe
Papa Bear
haha.. next time bos ko bagi project, ko mintak data macam kat atas. Dari situ ko akan tau project tu untung ke tidak..
teaqah
wah…ni ade belajar dlm financial management ni
Papa Bear
so sure kacang kan for you..
yas
Aduhhh….fenin suda bila tgk angka bebanyak tuuu…alahaiii….hehehehe
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Papa Bear
haha.. susah sikit jer dari kira ikan nih..
yas
Hahaha…kira ikan mmg petik jari jek papabear….
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Papa Bear
tapi susah bagi saya sebab nak bezakan jenis2 ikan. yg saya kenal ikan jerung, ikan buntal, ikan pari and ikan bawal… tapi even ikan bawal ada banyak jenis.. susah tuh…
Juan
aku kira kira ni pon pening, hehe, aku dulu amik jurusan elektronik, mak aih, bnyk giler kira kira
Papa Bear
masa ambil Engineering tu tak da subject Engineering Econ ke?
Juan
xdak pulak, naper, ko amik econ ker
Papa Bear
dulu aku ambil Engineering, Industrial dan salah satu core subject yg kena ambil ialah Engineering Econ..
suri
uh tak sukannya math… jadi pembantu akaun keje pun tak lama sb tak minat..asal dpt keje bru baru blh hee..
hr masuk akaun mmg blur alahai..
Papa Bear
sebenarnya saya pun tak suka math tapi terpaksa..
airaniez
Ok.My math is sooo not good after I left school.But I hope u can gain a lot of money in the future.Open table la bro..hihi
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Papa Bear
not mine. company punya hehe..
mie
gue suka no ni..
teringin nak kembali blajo bermain nombor..
ehheee
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Papa Bear
jangan main nombor ekor dah le..
mie
nombor ekor jangan sekali dicuba..
eheheeee
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teaqah
huhuhu….x suke time value…selalu konpius…
unlike..:(
Papa Bear
nak senang cam ni la… kalau tahun ni RON95 RM 1.90, beebrapa bulan lagi atau tahun depan, kena naik kan harga dia, kalau tak, 1.90 in teh future tu dah tak da makna dah… bertambah konpius?
bungaoren
I dont realy like the kind of job that you do.
(-_-)y lets lepaking.. huhuhuhu… boleh ke pun.. nak lepak2..
Papa Bear
boleh… kan bos cuti..
teaqah
hahaha.dari dulu mmg konpius ngn time value..lg2 bile da kene tukaq1 formula..bila formula da tunggang terbalik..kene log bagai..jenuh
Papa Bear
actually saya nak kena 1 jam baru boleh solve tu sebab tak perasan kena tukar formula bila guna discount rate.. hehe..
sufian
back to basic, e=mc2 … hahahahahahahaha
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Papa Bear
e=mc2 is more complicated than this..
ardina
fenin… mcm mana nk berlakon jd PM ni..
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Papa Bear
berlakon kan senang.. buat betul2 yg susah..